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Born in 1938, Frank E. McKinney is a 1961 Indiana University alumnus and 1962 graduate alumnus as well as an Olympic medal-winning swimmer. He came to Indiana University with the renowned swimming coach, Jim Counselman; with the blessing and help of Herman B Wells, they built up the best swimming program of the Big Ten universities. A former member of the Indiana University board of trustees, McKinney discusses his thoughts on the governance, academic schools, and administration of Indiana University. In addition, he speaks of his initiation of architectural planning committees on the Indiana University campuses. Finally, McKinney comments on his ideas as to the relationship between the American economy and the future of Indiana University.